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krapiva
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"herpes outbreak with 2 months old baby"
 
   I guess another OCD mom here. So i've had genital herpes for 1/2 of my life since i was 19. I rarely get outbreaks, and the ones i get are usually on my butt. Anyhow, 2 months ago i gave birth to a healthy baby boy. It was all natural vaginal delivery and i went on suppressive therapy at 36.5 weeks, as i had at least one confirmed outbreak during that pregnancy. Well, my baby is 8 wks old, and yesterday i realised i am having a huge outbreak. Probably the worse since i first got it. There were no usual padrom symptoms, just sudden pain and then blisters. Of course i am worried sick that i've given this to my baby. I normally do wash my hands well, but have been kinda lax about it lately *postpartum, tired, etc*. What is the chance that i could've infected my child? Would he still have my antibodies to protect him? I am breastfeeding him full time? Any reassuring comments? How careful do i need to be with shower, bathrooms, etc?


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  Not to worry.. Rajahadmin Jun-29-11 1
     RE: Not to worry.. krapiva Jun-29-11 2
         RE: Not to worry.. krapiva Jun-29-11 3
         LOL.. I'm an Engineer, too.. Rajahadmin Jun-30-11 4
             really no reason to worry!!! graceadmin Jun-30-11 5
                 RE: really no reason to worry!!! krapiva Jun-30-11 6
                     RE: really no reason to worry!!! Lenoreadmin Jun-30-11 7
                         RE: really no reason to worry!!! krapiva Jun-30-11 8
                             RE: really no reason to worry!!! graceadmin Jun-30-11 9
                                 RE: really no reason to worry!!! krapiva Jun-30-11 10
                                     RE: really no reason to worry!!! Lenoreadmin Jul-01-11 11
                                         RE: really no reason to worry!!! graceadmin Jul-01-11 12
                                             RE: really no reason to worry!!! krapiva Jul-01-11 13
                                             RE: really no reason to worry!!! graceadmin Jul-01-11 14
                                             RE: really no reason to worry!!! krapiva Jul-01-11 15
                                             RE: really no reason to worry!!! graceadmin Jul-02-11 16
                                             RE: really no reason to worry!!! krapiva Jul-13-11 17
                                             RE: really no reason to worry!!! graceadmin Jul-15-11 18
                                             RE: really no reason to worry!!! true10 Jul-25-11 19

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Rajahadmin
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1. "Not to worry.."
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I assume one of your worries is that you might have transmitted herpes during delivery. If that was the case, you would have known very quickly.

The fact that you were on suppression at that time plus the fact that your antibodies are passed to the baby via the placenta are all definitely working on your favor. I don't know about antibody transfer via breast milk, but suspect that one of the nurses on the board will chime in before too much longer.

Transmission at this point is very unlikely since your OB is genital and herpes is not at all likely to be transmitted except by direct skin to skin contact with an active shedding area, AKA, the outbreak.


"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain


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krapiva
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2. "RE: Not to worry.."
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   Thank you, Rajah!

Actually, no i am pretty sure he was fine during delivery. My OBGYN said there were no lesions, i was on suppressive therapy, and my water broke 20 min before he was born. Really, really fast natural labor. I am more worried about now, that i have an outbreak. I know the virus isn't easy to transfer, but my current outbreak is actually on my butt, outside bikini zone. So i worry that i might touch it when changing clothes etc, or get it on my clothes, and then hold the baby. Would this be possible? I normally have outbreaks on my butt, but outside bikini zone is the first one?! Also i know i pass antibodies to the baby before birth, but how long after birth does the baby have my antibodies?

Sorry, i am an engineer, so i tend to overanalyze things!

-Julia


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krapiva
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3. "RE: Not to worry.."
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   I also want to add that the last lesion on my butt that got cultured came back positive for hsv1. I know it's easier transmitted than hsv2.

-Julia


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Rajahadmin
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4. "LOL.. I'm an Engineer, too.."
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so I understand.

The thing about transmission is that it very much requires actual contact with the OB. It's very, very unlikely to happen via an intermediary object, even another body part. The virus is very fragile and dies quickly when it dries out. Also plain old soap and water destroy it on contact since the viral shell is a lipid (oil) and soap disrupts it.

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5. "really no reason to worry!!!"
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You having a recurrence is absolutely not a risk at all to your 2 month old child!!!! We never, ever have that sort of contact with our children and even if you would forget to wash your hands after using the bathroom, still not a risk. It takes so much more than just actually coming into contact with the virus to transmit it.

grace

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krapiva
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6. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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   This is true for both HSV1 and HSV2, right? Thank you soo much for reassuring me. I've never really had OB's that bad, since the first episode 17 yrs ago...in fact most of my OB's have no blisters, just redness...but this one is very classical blisters, and it's in a different place..gotta be the postpartum hormones or smth.


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Lenoreadmin
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7. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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   It's probably the hormones causing a more extensive outbreak. It's normal to worry about your baby, but it takes more than casual contact to transmit HSV1 and HSV2.


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krapiva
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8. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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   Good to know, thank you! I'll try to refocus. With my first i just never knew how dangerous herpes is for the babies, so i never worried about it. Ignorance is bliss! But because i had at least one OB during pregnancy, i've done a lot of googling about herpes and newborns, etc...and there're so many scary, scary stories out there!!!


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graceadmin
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9. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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you had herpes prior to becoming pregnant. as long as you didn't have a lesion at the time of delivery, the risk of transmission was less than 1%. Indeed neonatal herpes is terrifying but thankfully it doesn't happen very frequently

oral herpes is the only risk once the baby has been born. http://www.ashastd.org/herpes/herpes_learn_oralherpes.cfm has terrific down to earth information on how to reduce the risk of transmission to children.

grace

The first step in stopping the perceived stigma about genital herpes - is to stop believing in it yourself


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krapiva
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10. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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   Thank you, Grace. So what do you think about antibodies: does the baby still have my herpes antibodies he got through placenta? or are those gone? And what about bfeeding?


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Lenoreadmin
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11. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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   The baby doesn't have your antibodies. Breastfeeding is fine. Herpes isn't transmitted via blood/body fluids or breast milk.


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12. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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we pass on protective antibodies to the baby around 28 weeks of pregnancy. By the time they are about 4 months old though all the good stuff we passed on to them during pregnancy is gone.

breast feeding is ALWAYS the best thing you can do for your baby It's also the cheapest and always clean and the right temperature too ( yes, I am lazy so I breast fed my babies...lol ).

grace

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krapiva
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13. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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   I hear you, i breatfed my oldest until i was 20 wks pregnant with the second. But i am wondering if breastfeeding would help with herpes antibodies, or is it more gut bacteria type of protection? Only 4 months? Even with delayed cord clumping? Oh well, at least we've got that for a few more months.

thx!


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14. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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breast feeding does help to pass on protective antibodies. it's most helpful for things like if you get a cold, you pass on protection so your baby doesn't get as sick with that cold as if they were formula fed. Your baby is also starting to make their own antibody protection too against germs

grace

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krapiva
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15. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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   Awesome, thank you for all the good info. We're living on vacations tomorrow, and i really wish i didn't have to deal with OB, but oh well, such is life.

-Julia


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16. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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murphy's law says anytime you don't want an ob, you'll get one...ugh!!!!

have FUN on vacation!!! I chose a staycation to paint 3 rooms which was not the right choice....lol.

grace

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17. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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   Back from vacations..and guess what...another OB...why??? By now my hands have lost a layer of skin from being washed so much...sucks!!!


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18. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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not a bad idea to go and be seen and get properly tested for yeast and bacterial infections vaginally to see if either of them are contributing to this.

grace

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19. "RE: really no reason to worry!!!"
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   Krapiva,
Im having quite a hard time right now and I think you might be able to understand what Im going through and maybe help. Im 4.5 months pregnant right now, have only had herpes 3 years, and I am all consumed by it right now. i cant stop thinking about it. Im SO scared that something will happen to my baby. Any words of wisdom you can help me with? I'd really appreciate it a lot

Barbara


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