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Aug-13-07, 09:12 PM (CST)
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"What are my rights?"
   I'm a 30yr old male that unknowingly transmitted hpv to an ex-girlfriend some years ago. The disease showed no outward signs until after we had already become sexually active. Eventually she began to show the signs of infection as well, and some time later we broke up. After this happened I became celibate for a period of about five years.

Recently I became involved with another woman, who does not have the virus. We have not had sex yet, though she decided to take the available vaccine about 5 months ago in the hopes that we could one day become active with minimal risk to her. We are aware that it isn't a guarantee against her becoming infected.

My ex-girlfriend has refused to inform us exactly what type of infection she has, and it has reached the point where I'm considering hiring a lawyer. As I see it, since there is no test available for men, the only way that I can find out exactly what MY medical condition is, is from her, so I should have a right to her medical records pertaining to this condition.

I'm guessing that there may be a precedent for a case like this, and I'm wondering if any of you know of one, or if any lawyers reading this could offer me some advice.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Aug-13-07, 10:38 PM (CST)
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1. "RE: What are my rights?"
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Well, first, it would be really hard to prove that you were the one that infected your ex girlfriend in the first place, unless she was a virgin. HPV has a tricky incubation period - the average is a few months but it can be years - so its very hard to know with exactness who the source was.

Second, 90% of people clear HPV within 2 years, so its likely you wouldn't be infectious now. What clear means is muddy, though. Its unknown if it means the virus has gone dormant, or if it has cleared the body totally, but chances are really good that you are no longer infectious.

Third, your ex probably has no idea what type she had. Most people don't ever know that, unless she had a biopsy, and even then, it depends on what the doctor ordered. If she had visible warts, then she probably knows she had a strain that causes visible warts. If she had an abnormal pap, then she might know that she has a high risk kind that is liked to a higher risk for cervical cancer.

If your current gf has been vaccinated, then she is protected against the 4 most common types of HPV. That's really the best anyone can do.

My advice? Go to www.ashastd.org and click on HPV and read the most current research. You might be surprised at what you learn. A lot has changed in the last 5 or so years. Its now estimated that 80% of people will get this at some point in their lifetimes, and that if you've had 3 or more sexual partners, you've had it.

After reading the new research, you might want to let it go with the ex. There probably isn't a lot you can get from her that will help you. At some point, you and your new gf might have to move on, and just let it go.

I'm not a lawyer, and can't advise you of any laws, but I can't think of a law that would allow you to see her medical records in this, for the reasons I mentioned above.

Let us know if you have questions after reading the info on asha.


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2. "RE: What are my rights?"
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   When you were with the ex, did YOU have symptoms? If you did, I'm assuming those symptoms were genital warts, right? I'm not the HPV expert, but isn't that the only way it really manifests obviously in men?

And you said eventually while you were still with the ex, she showed signs of the infection. What "signs" was she having? Did she see a doc then? Wouldn't you already have a pretty good idea of what strain she had from tests that were done back then?

Again, I'm not the HPV expert around here, and I'm sure you'll get other responses. But if you had genital warts and she also got them, I'm pretty sure that narrows down your type/strain of HPV right there. And if you've been without symptoms, they generally say the virus clears the body in about 2 years, so you should be fine now.

If your ex had other symptoms than warts, unless she was a virgin before being with you, you wouldn't know if she had it first, rather than you giving it to her. That's a minor point, I suppose, given your real question right now.

I'm glad you and your current g/f are taking this all seriously and trying to be careful. But HPV is so vague right now that I think there is only so much you can really do. And you say that your present g/f doesn't have HPV. Again, she can't really know that unless she is a virgin. Anyone who has had just 3 sexual partners has likely been exposed to some strain of HPV. And yes, there is a Pap with HPV test that some gyns will do, but that still only rules out certain strains, not all of them.

One more small thing. You probably know this, but just in case--my understanding is the HPV vaccination is a series of three vaccinations that have to occur over a certain period of time. I just wanted to make sure your g/f has either already had the whole series or that she is aware and is going to complete the series. From your wording I just wasn't sure, that's all.

I'm sure you'll get other answers.

Best of luck to you and your new g/f.


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Jan-22-15, 01:05 AM (CST)
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3. "RE: What are my rights?"
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   One problem with getting rid of warts is that they usually have a deep root, and it only takes a few live cells remaining for the wart to grow back. One advantage to destructive treatments like freezing or acid (as opposed to cutting) is that it exposes the wart tissue to the immune system, which is what really gets rid of it. Any of the treatments will leave a sore or make the area sore.
Be patient - your immune system is st


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