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jasonff
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"Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
 
   I have read through all the posts on this site about Lectrojet and decided I had nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving it a try.

Right before I started treatment I got blood tests showing the HSV 2 antibodies were very high. After the treatment I got a PCR DNA test and both HSV 1 and 2 were both negative, meaning I don't have the virus anymore. I have at least 2 older blood tests from the past (not including two taken at private STD clinics which also proved I had HSV 1 and 2) that can also show that I had herpes 1 and 2.

I WILL GLADLY SHOW ANYONE ON THIS BOARD MY BLOOD TESTS TO PROVE LECTROJET CURED ME OF HERPES.

I am not here to advertise or promote this device. I am here to tell you that it worked for me. It is documented on their site that it cures 85% of people, so that still means 15% cannot be cured.

I honestly did not believe it myself and was skeptical but I emailed the company and the doctor answered all my emails and concerns and pointed out that with the 60 day money back guarantee, all I had to lose was the shipping charges. So I decided to give it a try.

Throughout the treatment period I had questions and they emailed me a reply for every email I sent.

Here is how it worked for me:

At the beginning of the treatment, I didn't feel much of anything. After about the 4th or 5th treatment, I started to feel sharp spikes of pain (this must have been the virus waking up) all over my body, especially in the back of my neck, which is where I believe the virus was primarily located.

The skin on the back of my scalp was in constant pain for about a week. I also started getting blisters/pimples on my scalp (THIS IS NOT FOLLICULITIS because if it were, then they would continue to appear now that I am cured of HSV 2).

After about a week, those began to go away. I was also very very tired throughout the treatment. There were days I could barely walk up the stairs in my home to go to bed. The doctor said this was normal since my body was producing antibodies and weakened from the outbreak.

Finally after the treatment was over, my energy started to return and after about a month I noticed a huge improvement of my energy levels. For the past 6 years since I acquired the virus I was ALWAYS TIRED as my body was constantly fighting this dreaded disease.

I no longer have blisters or pimples or outbreaks on my scalp and there is no pain there anymore.

I know there are some on this board who doubt it works, and I have read all the threads and posts. However, it worked for me, and again I have blood tests to prove it.


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  There's no cure for herpes... Rajahadmin Jun-28-12 1
  RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it needacure Jul-17-12 2
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         RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it Overwound Sep-05-12 4
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                                             You do realize that herpes.... Rajahadmin Feb-15-14 20
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1. "There's no cure for herpes..."
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https://sites.google.com/site/lectroject/

http://nocureforherpes.com

Herpes is not in the blood so pcr blood test for herpes prove nothing of the sort.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain


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2. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Jul-17-12 AT 09:57 PM (CDST)
 
Thanks for your sharing your experience Jasonff. Hope you don't mind updating once in a while your condition. Like how long has it lasted since your symptoms disappeared.

I just got it and wish I found this site first. I just have HSV-1 and sores under or on the tongue which are mostly unnoticeable but hurt like heck.

And I've read https://sites.google.com/site/lectroject/
I knew pretty much going in from reading their info on the site, it was a current applicator. But don't have the hand-on skills to safely make one on my own with the set amperage. I know enough about physics from college to know that ions can be transferred through the body and bloodstream via a current. So I'm giving it a chance.

I don't think I'll be asking for a refund in any case. I plan to experiment with it on trying other applications.

On #1 application today.

Another health related item using induction by neodymium magnets: www.alexchiu.com

(helps bloodflow throughout the body while sleeping).

Even if the electroject doesn't work for everybody , there WILL be a CURE for HSV one day. Even if it's done by nanobots that precisely kills every infected cell in a body without harming the others 50 to a 100 years from now. HSV seems like a zombie apocalypse of cells, but computers will be used to figure out this problem one day just like they've been used to advance so many other things and invent new marvels.



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3. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-26-12 AT 05:55 AM (CDST)
 
Hi Needacure, thanks for admitting to buying the device on this board. There are a lot of people who think it is a scam, but I am living proof it works.

Since I finished the treatment and tested negative for HSV 2, my energy has dramatically increased due to my body not having to fight this virus anymore. I have a lot more energy now.

And the red bumps that were appearing in the pubic area are almost all gone. Those took almost 3 months to heal. But they are fading away.

Did you get a test done BEFORE you started your treatment? I got one done right before the treatment just to confirm what I already knew and so I could show my dermatologist that I wasn't making it up (and also if it didn't work, at least I would get a refund).

how is your treatment going? Have you finished it? If so, did you get a blood test (they recommend the PCR DNA test since it is very accurate for detecting the virus in the blood).

By the way if anyone here wants to buy my device I will sell it for half off of what I paid for it. Just email me and we can set it up. You will need to buy the electrode pads (which are dirt cheap and can be bought directly from their site). You also will need to buy a tube of topical acyclovir.


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4. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   Sorry Jason for the skepticism, but something that sounds too good to be true usually is. If it worked for you, great. Just don't like to see false hope advocated on a forum site (or any other for that matter) and give the wrong impression to the emotionally vulnerable.

If I am wrong, I'd gladly eat my hat, then order one for myself...


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5. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   Overwound, I totally understand where you are coming from because after reading the posts on this board I felt the same way. But then I decided I had nothing to lose (except shipping charges) and everything to gain by giving it a try.

I wanted to make sure I could reach the company and doctor first before buying it to know they are reliable, and I must have sent them 10 emails before I finally ordered it. Their fast replies and detailed answers gave me the confidence to go ahead and buy it.

It seemed easy enough to do and there were no side effects or serious dangers, so I figured why not. Maybe I could rid myself of this nasty disease. And it worked!

Again they claim it works for 85% of people so there is still that slight risk it won't.

You know, just today I was looking at my blood tests again and couldn't believe I'm cured.

My doctor was very interested in this as well and had me fax over the documentation from the site. He already knew of iontophoresis but had never heard of it being used for treatment of herpes.

Anyway, if you are really that skeptical, you can always buy the used machine from me for half price. I'll even fax you my blood tests to prove I don't have it anymore.


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6. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   I just went to the lectrojet site today and it says it is closed down!! What happened?


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7. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Jun-29-13 AT 07:47 PM (CST) by Rajah (admin)
 
Hi Jasonff,

it's been a long time. I'm not sure it's the same site although the front page looks the same:

Link Removed


I gave up on the lectrojet after 15 days because I ran out of cream and electrodes.

I've had to endure outbreaks mainly under the tongue almost every other week now. From touching it with my finger and rubbing other places on my body, it spread to other parts on my skin location of which I'm embarrassed to say.

This virus really sucks, just touching it with the finger and then touching another part of the body can spread it. I'm not even sure the "pink-eyes" I've had are pimples or herpes HSV-1 outbreaks under my eyelids now.

I still have the device. I plan to give it another try. I'll have to make sure I buy a hundred pairs of electrodes and much more acyclovir this time.

What the heck, if the virus stays with the host body until it dies, then what's another few bucks and a few more months of trying in one's lifetime.

Some people buy multiple useless iPhone 1 to 5's and ipads. Or graphic cards then upgrade to new ones.

At least it's better than being foreclosed with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.

I hope you are really cured Jasonff. They said a handful of people infected with HIV actually had their own body cure itself. But it only happens with microscopic chances like a lottery.

So it stands to reason a few people in the world with HSV-1 can be cured of it and you had HSV-2. I have HSV-1 but it bothers me almost weekly that I had to live with it and the annoying pain, like a senior citizen with a constant painful condition even though I'm not middle-aged yet.



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8. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Jun-12-13 AT 03:52 AM (CST)
 
HI Needacure, sorry for not responding sooner but since being cured of herpes 2 I don't really need to come back to this forum as much.

I still am free of herpes 2 in case you are wondering.

I ran out of acyclovir cream mid way through the treatment and rush ordered some additional tubes and also the electrodes.

If you stopped midway through the treatment then that could be why you never rid yourself of the virus.

I remember asking the dr about stopping mid way through while I waited for the acyclovir cream and he told me missing one day would not affect the treatment but if I stopped mid way through then that would not kill off the virus completely. He said you had to stick with it for 2 straight weeks twice a day every 12 hours. Otherwise, the virus can come back and that could be why you didn't kill it all off.

Also no one ever seems to discuss the topic of the Financial or physical COST OF using Valtrex or other oral suppression pills. Even with insurance, brand name or generic pills cost a lot of money and worse they can cause liver toxicity and problems in other areas of your body. Nobody seems to ever talk about the risks of using Valtrex or generic brands of oral suppression therapy but those are very real risks and costs.

So give it another try and let us all know what happens.

Did you see the other post by chopper? He also cured himself of herpes using the lectrojet.

Every time someone posts something about that device, the owner of this forum posts links to a page claiming it is fraud. I don't understand why he/she does this when I am living proof it cured me of herpes.


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9. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Jan-19-14 AT 01:28 AM (CST)
 
Continuing on this thread.

I'm planning to get started again and give it the full two week trials. I bought more acyclovir cream enough for the test. Actually I bought a bunch to use it as cream treatment for the OBs.

Yes, I still get the OBs every week. My sex life is gone. As I can't get over not telling a potential partner about or having to struggle about it. So I don't even try to date or get close anymore. And have not tried herpes dating sites. so basically ignoring a sex life and
just going on with the usual work life. Although I get pressure and questions about why I'm always single, but I've always been single and not dating for a long time even before contracting herpes hsv-1 three years ago. I've gotten kind of used to the painful OBs. Maybe my body has too and knows to expect those OBs. I also take Gene-Eden and that helps as off -the counter prevention of OB medication although their claim of Gene-Eden possibly being a cure is probably false. It works well enough without having to tell the doctor or any other health care provider about my hsv-1. And having to get prescriptions for ingestion pill treatments. (I sure don't want my insurance to know about it in any case for as long as I can!)

So my current stage. Need to order a bunch of electrodes. I'll continue on a new thread my 2 times a day trial, once I receive the bunch of electrodes.

Yes, that link to that page where the engineer opened it up and showed it's electronics. So what? it still does what's it supposed to do by sending a current through the body. Not that trivial to make it yourself in any case especially for those of us who don't do electronics projects.


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10. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   Hello again everyone, I am very happy to announce that the lectrojet device has cured me a SECOND TIME of Herpes 2! I have blood tests to prove it and will gladly fax them to anyone who doesn't believe me.

I have had a few girlfriends and lovers in the past two years, and I could have easily obtained it from them without even knowing about it. I had a recent outbreak and went to my dermatologist and he ordered me a HSV 1 and 2 antibody test. It came back positive for HSV 2.

I then used the lectrojet device for the 15 days of treatment and then asked for a PCR DNA test which is 300% more accurate of detecting the virus than an antibody test.

I asked the lab tech's at Quest Diagnostics if the PCR DNA test would detect the virus EVEN IF IT IS DORMANT, and they said yes.


I have been symptom free since the second time I've used the lectrojet and the blood test proves it is gone from my system.

Now, unless the quest diagnostics tech was wrong about the test detecting the virus even if it is dormant, I will be symptom free from now on. If I develop symptoms again without being with anyone sexually then I will know for sure that the device only made it dormant and the PCR DNA test does not detect the virus if it is dormant.

SO I will update this site if anything changes.

I just wanted to let everyone know the good news. This is the SECOND TIME the lectrojet has cured me.


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11. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-02-14 AT 08:55 PM (CST)
 
Nice to hear the news jasonff. It's terrible enough to have HSV-1 which I've had for 4 years now. I'm afraid when I'm gone they'll open up my medical research donated brain and find all the herpes plaques in there that causes Alzheimer's.

If it worked that well, why hasn't big pharma or the medical industry looked into it. There are even "zapper" technology that supposedly cures AIDs yet they spend millions just to pay salaries and shareholders while keeping research on Aids and herpes decades and bicentennial long before anything approaching a cure is let loose.

It's sickening enough they don't take the research seriously and keep enabling big pharma profiting from each herpes inflicted person hundreds or thousands per year. Those that can't afford the treatment get the terrible visible outbreaks seen on demonstration photos which they probably volunteered for a little pocket change for booze and cigs since they are most likely homeless people inflicted with HSV.

I've ordered 200 electrodes. And have enough acyclovir cream to do a "full" treatment. Then I'll see if the lectroject jet really works and my results will be good testimonial for this board because I'm not a scam shill for lectrojet or any other faux hope cure vendor.

Since I would pay probably tens of thousand$ of dollars total in the future anyways for treatment for HSV OB's the rest of my life, it makes economic sense to give the lectrojet one more try at my age just in case it really works.


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12. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-06-14 AT 06:28 PM (CST)
 
HI needacure

I have some good news and bad news. The good news is that I have talked to several doctors about this device and how the virus works and they said the device lowered the "Titer" range into this low level but unfortunately the virus may still be present in the cell. The reason is because the HSV virus' DNA resides in the cell, making it impossible to kill off, so it may just now be in the dormany stage.

They said the device may have pushed the virus into the dormancy stage and killed off whatever virus was left in the blood (WHICH I BELIEVE IS A SUCCESS IN AND OF ITSELF!), or it actually killed it off completely.

Now, if it actually killed off whatever virus was still in my blood then that means that sped up my recover 100 fold since when I started taking Valtrex oral pills the area where I had an outbreak was healing very slowly and I did not feel any different taking the valtrex. Because the pill has to go through the liver and then gets entered into the blood slowly and diluted, it isn't as strong as this lectrojet device.

I remember when I first starting using the lectrojet (both the first time I used it 2 years ago and just recently), I felt sharp spikes on pain in my skin where I had the outbreak and also in other parts of my body such as my thigh and back. That stopped after the 3rd treatment but it did convince me that SOMETHING was happening because the virus lives in nerves and thus the pain was probably caused by the medicine attacking it. I NEVER felt this pain taking the valtrex.

In fact, I never felt anything when I took the valtrex. I don't think it actually helps kill off the virus because it is used more for SUPPRESSING THE VIRUS in your body than actually killing it during an outbreak. The body's own immune system is what eventually pushes it into dormancy and the valtrex is what helps keep it from breaking out again.

They said the only way to know for sure if this device actually killed off the virus is if they do a nerve test for the virus inside one of the ganglia nerves at the base of the spine, and all of them said the same thing---that it is very difficult and expensive to do that test and all of them said that is not a good idea to do.

So if the lectrojet just killed off the virus in my blood and pushed it into dormancy, then that alone is a victory because it may have taken months for my body's own immune system to push it into dormancy.

And to be honest with you , ever since I got this virus, it never seemed to go away. I always had continual outbreaks even while taking valtrex. So I believe that it did work to a certain degree and that alone is worth the price of trying it out.

I guess the only way to know for sure is if over time I get another outbreak then indeed the virus was just pushed into dormancy and that it will always be with me.


Also regarding your point about the costs of treatment for HSV outbreaks, yes you are absolutely right---you will spend thousands of dollars or more if you don't have insurance just for the pills and supplements which enhance your immune system, SO WHY NOT TRY THIS DEVICE? whether or not it works its still cheaper in the long run than taking all those pills. And also how safe is it really to use Valtrex daily for years and years?


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13. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-10-14 AT 01:44 AM (CST)
 
Day 1 treatment of lectroject.com

per their instructions before their websites got shut down.

45 min application total.

15 min with electrodes on back of spine below the neck ( i don't know human anatomy names; forgot it all since high school) and on the neck above artery.

15 min ; same as above with electrode on other side of neck.

15 min - electrode on base of spine, and other electrode on spine at top below neck.

-----

after; 5 min of bestzapper

no ob's today; but today seemed like an ob-less day anyways

& 1 pill of gene-eden herbal remedy for HSV


info at:
www.bestzapper.com
http://www.buy-gene-eden.com/
http://www.buy-gene-eden.com/Herpes-Remedy.php

some of "gene-eden's" blurb on how it attacks the "latent virus"

"A recent clinical study tested the effect of the Gene-Eden-VIR on viral infections, including an infection with the herpes virus. The study showed that treatment with Gene-Eden-VIR decreased the symptoms in over 70% of the infected individuals. Specifically, it decreased the symptoms severity, frequency, and duration. Gene-Eden-VIR is unique since it helps the immune system target the latent herpes virus. See more information on the difference between the latent and active virus, on the web page "Viral Infections: What is a Cure."

There are also medications on the market against the herpes virus, such as Valtrex and Acyclovir (Zovirax). However, these medications only work during an outbreak to shorten the time of the herpes outbreak. They are ineffective against the latent virus, and therefore, don't prevent future outbreaks. In other words, they can bring about a remission, but they don't cure the herpes infection. See more on the difference between remission and cure on the "Viral Infections: What is a Cure" webpage."


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14. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   hi needacure

I don't understand your treatment . Did you do 45 mins in the same locations?

Also do you know why their site got shut down?


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15. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-11-14 AT 02:35 AM (CST)
 
Hi Jasonff,

I did three different locations 15 min each. The minimum I believe was 15 minutes once a day.

Today I did 30 min on the back spine, and 30 min with one node on spine, the other under the jaw on side of neck.

I had a "tingling" and slight OB. I guess it's expected as the virus runs away from the onslaught of the acyclovir. The OB faded within 18 hours.

I can't be sure why they got shut down; I was just a customer of theirs; I'm just trying to get myself cured with their product. I just discovered that yesterday checking on their sites, after re-visiting (by google search for lectroject cure) Rajah's post on some blog and also the "oxygen"-treatment lady's post on the same blog.

I'm only guessing they got shut down by the FDA cronies with some push from big pharma. Or alternately the lectroject people quit since their reputation had more controversy and bad word of mouth as a likely scam and they couldn't keep the business going.

re: the website that shows the lectroject "opened up" and exposed as a "scam". Only controlled verified testing and cured vs. non-cured cases can prove it's a scam. Opening it up and showing the electronics doesn't affect the claim and theories. Because the device >by itself< does what it's supposed to do: send a current through the electrodes. Doesn't mean the device electronically doesn't work. It does. The switching between AC power and battery still work. The switch still works. The dc current still flows. Opening it up didn't prove anything about the theory of the supposed cure.

(I have no idea they are a scam or not currently ; I can attest I did not like how they provided only a small tube of acyclovir and relatively few number of electrodes. For the original price they could have provided a lot more supplies to help ensure more folks would be "cured" sooner and promote good word of mouth. Leaving out adequate supplies only makes them look like they were after more plausible deniability excuses (oops, their customers needed more acyclovir cream and electrodes to do the treatment properly, etc. ) if they were exposed as a scam. So after more than a year since I bought the initial lectroject package, I am now doing a full personal test trial).


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16. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   HI needacure,

The instructions are to put one pad at the base of the spine slightly off to the right or left of the spine since and at the top of the neck just below the hair line and slightly off to the right or left of the spine and leave it on for 30 minutes in those locations.

It doesn't say to move them anywhere else on the body during the treatment.

I agree that the picture of the device unassembled does nothing to prove whether it cures or not. All it shows is what the device is made of, not whether it works to kill HSV 1 and 2.

That is done through blood tests and symptoms.

I also ran out of the pads and acyclovir during treatment. I also found that very problemmatic too and had to order another small bottle of acyclovir and small number of pads to continue the treatment. Not a deal breaker but definitely more of annoyance.


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17. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-13-14 AT 00:40 AM (CST)
 
I don't have the instructions or .jpgs anymore Jasonff. I had thought it was directly on the spine at the base and the other at the top just under the neck part of the spine. And I recall there was an alternate placement set of pics and instructions where one electrode was placed at the top of the spine under the neck, and the other could be placed under the chin on the neck over an artery in order to "better" focus on oral herpes OB's.

As I don't have the instructions or photos they had anymore and their sites are gone (maybe i can try the "cached" site services sometime) , I can't be sure exactly anymore. However I continue to do the two electrodes on the top and bottom of the spine at least.

3rd day was off. I was late by 6 hours , so it was about 18 hours after. I just did a 20 minute session with one electrode on top of base of spine (not exact, hard to place) and the other at top of spine under neck area.

I also did 5 min of the bestzapper;
And also 1 pill of gene-eden herbal "latent herpes virus" focused extract.

I had tingling and quick OB but it dried up far quicker within 5 hours. A couple of my fingers had rash-like effects and dried skin spots which were also somewhat itchy underneath. I assume these are also herpes blisters. I continue to use the acyclovir cream on it.

Will update day 4 which is today in a while, soon.

So far the OB's have been far less painful and much quicker to dry out with far less pain. So there is some significant effect at least if just the symptoms.


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18. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-13-14 AT 02:55 PM (CST)
 
Day 4,

Early this morning about 6 hours ago.

25 minutes with electrodes on standard placement, one on the base of spine, other on top of spine under neck.

5min of bestzapper.
1 pill of gene-eden.

Very slight OB on tongue which only lasted an hour or so with "tingling".

Well at least by this time without the lectroject, I would have
had much more painful and irritating OB's by now probably.

It could be I'm just getting the acyclovir cream in my bloodstream
which could be the same as suppressing it by taking acyclovir pills
by regular prescription.. (assuming the claimed rationale for lectroject is a scam and it doesn't also clear out the herpes infected cells in the spinal ganglia area where it stays dormant to hide, just acting as a suppressant and not a cure).


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19. "RE: Cured of Herpes 2 - Lectrojet - Blood tests to prove it"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-13-14 AT 03:53 PM (CST)
 
Hi needacure.

It sounds like you are attacking this virus with everything you have, including these extracts and zapper device. I'm definitely curious to see what happens. Can you please do a lab test after the two weeks of lectrojet treatment? The PCR DNA is the most effective blood test to detect the virus as it is 300% more sensitive at identifying the virus even if it is dormant.You can ask any doctor to write a lab request for this. Sometimes they will need you to call the lab doing the blood drawing to get the codes.

Regarding the pictures of placement of the pads, I do also remember seeing pics of them having them on the wrists but the most recent instructions were to place it slightly off center of the lower spine and slightly off center at the top of the spink right below the hair line. This was because that's where the ganglia nerves are and are best for genital herpes.

It sounds like your symptoms are much more severe than mine and your body is reacting to the lectrojet super charging the acyclovir into your blood stream. I think you are correct to assume that this is the case. Remember I said a few times I felt sharp spikes of pain in my skin in random areas of the body and especially where I had had a recent outbreak as well. I think that is the acyclovir killing off the remaining virus in that area and inside the nerve.

After a few days, you may feel really tired, or have more energy. The first time I used it I was really exhausted after the first few days. The dr said it was from the virus "waking up" inside my body and then killing it off.

Whenever you have a cold or flu and your immune system is weakened the virus may become reactivated, so I'm just going to use the device again if that happens (assuming the virus isn't completely gone from my system and remains dormant now).

By the way, I just bought that zapper device too. I figured if it can cure a guy of cancer twice and some people of hiv , and kill off any strange parasites in the body, its worth a try just to have around for precaution and for general health, ESPECIALLY after seeing what kinds of results this lectrojet had.


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20. "You do realize that herpes...."
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is not a blood borne infection. The herpes blood test are not looking for the virus itself, but rather the antibodies that the immune system produces when there's a herpes infection. PCR done on a blood sample is not a good test for herpes which hides out in the affected ganglia when it goes dormant.

You've been reading too much written by the folks who are selling these quack machines.

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21. "RE: You do realize that herpes...."
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-16-14 AT 04:14 PM (CST)
 
Rajah I think you are correct, but what I think this device does is it kills whatever is causing the outbreak and makes it go dormant, thus speeding up the healing time dramatically.

I have confirmed that the HSV virus dna lives in the host cell even during dormancy, and even though it doesn't show up in the blood tests, it is still present in the cells. There is no way to kill off the virus once you have it. Two doctors have told me this.

So the device quickly kills off the virus that is causing the outbreak, sending it quickly into dormancy. This was proven by the fact that I only used this device when my HSV antibodies were high and showed up on the blood test. Then after using the device I tested again and there was no sign that the virus was present in my blood or antibodies for it. The PCR DNA test proved that it killed off whatever was in my body at that time and sent it into dormancy. That alone to me was worth the price because as I mentioned in other posts, the outbreaks never went away even on Valtrex. It was like one non-stop outbreak, with the locations changing and the frequency of them happening almost every month.

When I used this device it killed off the virus quickly and did not appear again until I had a flu or got very sick. I will reuse it every time I have an outbreak to quickly put it back into dormancy. That is well worth the money spent. That way I don't have to continue to take valtrex, which is expensive and there may be side effects for long term use.


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22. "RE: lectroject"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-17-14 AT 02:58 PM (CST)
 
Hi Jasonoff,

You're right that I had outbreaks at different parts of my body initially using the device. And they seemed to be less severe. However two days ago I had a two nasty painful outbreaks at new areas. Made me feel disgusted with the "scam" lectroject and wanted to throw it away like another poster had mentioned a few years earlier on this board.

I skipped a day, and put it back on. After all I had bought hundreds of electrodes to prepare for real testing.

I was under the impression you were "cured" for a period lasting more than 6 months or so according to your posting. I wasn't aware the symptoms resurged every month or so for you again.

I don't know if I will do testing. I am despondent and unwilling to pay for testing after the 15 days either the blood test or PCR DNA. Especially if the symptoms don't go away after that period. I am busy trying to survive financially and my life is just single now.
If the symptoms are gone for 6 months or a year, then I might feel better about it to take blood+DNR testing. So I may keep testing until my electrodes run out.

good to hear you got a bestzapper. It's just as clumsy and annoying to use with having to "wet" those wrist straps. Assuming the case they are both scamming-cure vendors. It does make sense to make their devices troublesome to use to get more reasons for plausible deniability i.e. the customer didn't "put up" enough with the instructions to make it "really" work, ha!

I've had the devices fall down so much as I move around trying to get my stuff done. With the limited range of the wires. A wonder they haven't broken yet from the multiple drops to the floor or the tugs on the wires.

Right Rajah, thanks for the knowledge about how herpes works from your site and others. "supposedly" the electroject is supposed to kill the virus hiding out dormant. Gene-eden is "supposed" to neutralize the virus "latent" and "dormant" as well. Bestzapper makes no claims about herpes but claimed it cured Aids and cancer of some patients and helped some african people get cured of Aids. The site also has free plans to make a larger zapper device to help the afflicted in the 3rd world nations.

Day 5 (skipped a day)

30 minutes, nodes both on spine
30 minutes , one node on top of spine, 2nd node on neck under chin.

bestzapper - 5 min regular "cycle".


(having a painful big OB in my mouth as I typed this)


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23. "RE: lectroject"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-17-14 AT 09:36 PM (CST)
 
HI needacure

Please don't give up on the lectrojet until after the 15 treatments. I actually used it twice a day for 30 treatments, each half an hour long. The doctor from lectrojet said it would probably cause an outbreak when first being used. He said that the virus is most likely reactivated and/or "Woken up" in the body causing an initial outbreak, but he told me to not stop the treatment until after at least 15 treatments. He said that that is when the virus is active and needs to be killed with the device. Missing a day or two during the course of treatments won't matter that much.

Also please try just keeping the pads at the top of your spine and at the lower part of your spine and not move them during treatment for 30 minutes.

He said the acyclovir cream would be absorbed completely by this time, and you should use a new pad with a small amount of the medicine applied to it. Maybe moving the pads during your treatment is causing the problem. The ganglia nerves are off to the right and left sides of your spine and that's why he suggests you place the pads there. He never mention anything about putting it under your chin.

I did not have an outbreak for 2 years after the first time I used it, and believe I either got it again from a new partner or the virus really was dormant and only came out after my immune system was lowered.

Again there is no real way to verify if the virus is completely gone from your body unless they test the nerve in your ganglia in the lower back and all the doctors I spoke to said that test is dangerous, difficult to do, expensive and unnecessary. So you will have to just see if you have symptoms after the treatment to see if it really did work and kill off the active virus in your body.

I know it worked for me twice, and the blood tests proved that. Whether or not it just killed off the active virus in my blood and pushed it into dormancy or if it really did cure it completely from my body, it doesn't matter because to me for it to work the way it did and show up negative in blood tests and have such a low titer range from before using the device proves to me that it worked and that alone was worth the risk.


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24. "RE: lectroject"
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   Hi again needacure,

Today the zapper device arrived and I used it for 60 minutes. They told me to use it for an hour every day for 4 months if you are sick.

So I used it and so far have felt it clear up the mucous from my recent flu, and my sinuses are finally clearing up. I didn't feel the sharp spikes of pain in my skin like I did when I first used the lectrojet but that's probably because the virus is probably either dormant or killed off completely.

I'm curious to see how I will feel from this zapper device. How long have you used it for and for how long do you use it for each day?


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25. "RE: lectroject"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-01-14 AT 03:03 AM (CST)
 
Hi I'm back.

thanks for your support and encouragement Jasonff. Yes, that's what I've ended up doing, having the electrodes on my spine ends for about 30 minutes. I had been busy, so I missed some days. But overall due to the leftover paper where 10 electrodes were initially placed on, I've gone through 9 sessions having used up almost two sheets for a total of 18 electrodes of my supply.

Ok, two years without symptoms looks something to be forward to. For now I am just hoping for receding of symptoms as I've had like an outbreak per week during the past year. Having no symptoms for even 6 months would be like a godsend for me. I know I hadn't subscribed to the usual doctor prescribed treatments and periodic perscriptions in the 4 years since I contracted hsv-1.

So hopefully this electroject treatment is getting into my blood. If it makes my symptoms recede for over a year eventually or more I guess it would be worth it.

Frankly I haven't been using the bestzapper consistently. Only now with my recent re-try to work on my hsv-1 have I tried to do the regular 5min cycle per day. So I have just pretty much been using the bestzapper at the same days when I do the lectroject treatments, usually after the lectroject.

So basically I assume the lectroject gets the acyclovir into my regular circulatory bloodstream and also helps push the acyclovir into the nerve ganglia areas of the spine to attack the dormant hsv-1 latent there.

I'm not sick of anything else except maybe depression and the usual mental hangups most people (due to high stress with work and life a big segment of the population are medicated or self-medicated on some kind of psychotropics; currently I just use vitamins and have ditched all other medicine for months; in my early 40's I don't want to have to take any continual perscription$ yet. ) have, as well as HSV-1. (However I do have bad forgetful memory at times; slow thinking than average I think, dyslexic typing and writing, as well as worry about slow and forgetful mental processing due to the recent research on HSV-1 thought to contribute to, or cause Alzheimer's and growing amylid(sp?) "plaques" in the brain. ) So I hadn't been using the 1hr best zapper mode as it's even more annoying and restrictive than the lectroject with having the wrist straps first moistened and then the wires getting in the way or even disconnected often as I while I use my free time to use the lectroject and bestzapper, I often am doing computer typing activity and moving about at my desk. (i.e. multiple keyboards, books and such) where a move a few feet in another direction can often pull the wires apart or get stuck on my chair etc. not to mention having to go the bathroom or having to move for some other minute situation.

So I guess you and I are currently the new testers of bestzapper on this board. I appreciate you are trying out the bestzapper since I mentioned it. It's nice also having your testimonial of bestzapper and maybe not just for HSV but also for other ailments. Nice to hear about it helping your flu and sinuses.

I'm sure others on this forum must be reading our posts and I hope we can report good news both for electroject and bestzapper after some time which would be a good hope and helpful for everyone.

Day 6, 7,8,9 (skipped some days)

30 min with electrodes on ends of spine.
plus a few extra 15-30min of one electrode (other electrode kept on top of spine under neck) moved to under chin over side artery on neck.

bestzapper, 5 min cycle on some of the past sessions. maybe missed a couple.

gene-eden pills. had been doing 1 a day. but missed some days.

(currently low on gene-eden; and will need to get more acyclovir cream to keep up with my supply of electrodes sometime as I plan to use them all up ; so will be 100 sessions total of electroject as I have two packs of 100 electrodes supply.)


symptoms: worst OB about two weeks ago at two different places. Last past week has "dried" and "scarred" out. Currently no OB's. Two days ago, was some tingling on my tongue, but encouragingly did not break out into full OB. Maybe lectroject acyclovir in my blood stopped it that time. And/or with help from bestzapper inciting the white blood cells and immune system to keep on top of it.



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26. "RE: lectroject"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-01-14 AT 07:12 PM (CST)
 
hi needacure

yes you are probably right about others reading our posts with interest. Since we are really the only two reporting in great detail about these two devices if anyone is sitting on the fence then maybe it will help in their decision.

I bought the zapper because I don't want cancer or hiv or anything else, not even the common cold. I've had enough illnesses in my life so if this thing does what it says it will do, I'm buying it.

I have called and told the zapper salesperson a suggestion on the connectors. I too had the same problem and asked if they could sell the alligator clips for the connectors or at least make the device beep to let us know that the connector came loose. They do come off too easily and they should redesign the clips and button so it stays in securely. It is a great device though.

Not only is it helping with my sinuses and flu (completely gone now), but it also helped me with a nasty case of folliculitis. That is basically a super case of acne all over the body. Bacteria gets in the skin and creates these bumps just like acne, but these would not go away after trying probably 5 antibiotics and sulphur pills and countless creams and lotions. After 1 week with the zapper my skin is almost completely cleared up. I definitely could feel it working in my skin in areas where the folliculitis would appear, such as the back of my scalp and neck. I would feel tingling there as the zapper killed the bacteria. It still isn't all gone but after using it for 3 hours a day, I feel the skin on my scalp for the bumps and they are all gone. I may have to use that device for several months for hours a day until it kills it all off.

Please keep us posted on your hsv 1 symptoms (if they improve or stay the same). How much acyclovir cream are you using on the electrodes? The site said to use a small amount such as the size of a small pea. That is what I used.

And yes I didn't have any symptoms for 2 plus years. I am almost sure I got it again from an ex girlfriend or it was really dormant that whole time. I guess we will never know for sure unless they test my nerve ganglia for the virus....


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27. "RE: lectroject"
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   hello everyone, I wanted to post an update. So I recently felt the prodome stages of tingling during a very stressful time recently , so I know for a fact I was going to have an outbreak, thus the lectrojet did not cure me completely of the hsv 2. However, what it does is kill off the virus quickly that has been released during the outbreak and put it back into dormancy. The reason I know this--the tingling stopped and I never had the outbreak. Therefore, in a way it does "cure" you TEMPORARILY of an outbreak, but not permenantly because as all the doctors have told me the virus dna stays in the cells and therefore cannot be destroyed completely.

The reason my blood tests came up negative is because the lectrojet killed off whatever virus was floating in my blood stream and "active", then pushing it into dormancy.

I took acyclovir pills as well as rubbed the acyclovir ointment on my skin to prevent the outbreak and also used the lectrojet using the cream. The tingling has stopped which is a very good thing now that I know how to control outbreaks from ever happening in the future. Before, I had no way to control when there was an outbreak. I used to take acyclovir pills every day but that didn't help and the side effects were bad (dizziness, weakness, and whatever else it was doing to my liver and/or other organs).

So in a way, the lectrojet works, but it does not provide a 100% cure. It kills off the active virus during the prodome stage or during an outbreak but it really just pushes it into dormancy, and for that reason alone, I feel it was worth EVERY PENNY!

It is a successful device, and by getting blood tests after using it for the 15 treatments and seeing that I'm negative, it works for me!


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28. "Acyclovir pills.."
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Next time try it with the acyclovir pills alone and see if you get the same results. Acyclovir taken orally is proven in studies to help with herpes outbreaks while the Lectroject device is not proven in any sort of peer reviewed independent studies.

Acyclovir is very safe and does not affect your liver. There are people who have taken it daily for decades now.

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31. "RE: Acyclovir pills.."
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   Hi Needacure how are you? Long time no talk.

I found an article which covers what you talked about with HSV 1 being linked to alzheimers and creating plaques in the brain:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/33191472/ns/health-alzheimers_disease/t/can-you-catch-alzheimers-disease/#.VCz-1FcXL1x

Lately I too have been very forgetful and I used to have a great memory. I'm back on the lectrojet AND acyclovir tablets again even though I tested negative for HSV 2 4 months ago. I'm going to stay on the pills to see how I feel. My dr. wants me to take 1500 mgs a day for 2 weeks.

I'm also getting another blood test for both 1 and 2. I'll let you know what the results are.

I just saw Dr. Hyman on youtube talking about using two supplements which really help with Alzheimers---

1. Acetyl L-Carnitine HCI and
2. Alpha Lipoic Acid

It says they are using this combination for patients with Parkinsons and Alzheimers so give it a try. I found the combination pill in my local supermarket for about $10. Since taking the pills, I am having many more vivid dreams than before, and dreams I can remember as well.

It says take 4 a day but i only take one. I think most supplements dosages are too high since they want you to use more of their product, not because it is the ideal dose.

So maybe this will help with your forgetfulness. I dont know what is going on with me lately but I'm scared with all this forgetfulness going on. I even had a recent brain MRI just to make sure there was nothing serious.


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