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Gogo1
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"Are these Symptoms that first OB is coming?"
 
   LAST EDITED ON Jul-16-16 AT 02:39 PM (CST)
 
Hello all (and sorry this is so long!!)

I had two min of unprotected sex last Sunday, after which the guy put on a condom. I'm normally adamant about not having ANY unprotected genital contact, but the heat of the moment got me for those two min.

Three nights later, my vaginal area began itching like crazy. I got up and looked at the area in a little mirror and saw that one of the normal tiny bumps all women have on the outside lips of the vagina looked a little red. It didn't hurt and wasn't raised, but the area above it itched like crazy--not the whole vag. Area, just the left side.

Btw--that night, before we did anything, I asked the guy if he had any changes in his sexual history and asked specifically if he had any std's--we had been intimate a year and some change earlier. Every time during that time, we'd used condoms. He said no, that he was clear. I now know that doesn't mean anything and that he may carry the virus and have had no symptoms at all.

I went the next day to the doc, and he said it didn't look like herpes but he wanted to swab it just in case and also ran tests for bv, yeast infection, gonorrhea, and chlamidia...and trichamonis (??). He asked if I was feeling pain in the area withy the itching. I wasn't. My skin was just irritates from all the scratching. He said the bump was prob just some normal irritation. He prescribed me diflucan for the itching--he also noticed some discharge--and valtrex just in case (to take if I see blisters, he said). He said all the tests would be ready by this upcoming tues (3 days from now). He also said it's normal with yeast infections to have one side itch and the other not. Finally, he said I was probably okay if I didn't experience any blisters by next Tuesday. (This is assuming I have had the virus and have just never had symptoms...if I do have it I've never had an OB).

I felt better when I left bc he said the little bump didn't look like herpes...but last night, the left side, and one section in particular, began to hurt. Not uncontrollably, but I did notice, esp since I'm on high alert right now. It was more like a dull ache. Then, today, I had a little low-back ache on the left side and felt the pain radiate in my left heel. No leg pain, but a little back pain and then a little pain in my heel. I'm also experiencing some low-grade itching on the inside of my vagina.

No tingling...but I will say--11 years ago, I had a couple of minutes of unprotected genital contact--not sex, just rubbing--before putting on a condom for sex. A few days later, I did feel a tingle, and then crazy itching, and then a bump, but it was under my skin. I went to literally 11-12 doctors bc I was so scared and convinced it was herpes. But the bump was biopsied, only bc I was insistent, and it ended up being something not STD-related. Benign tumors you can get either vaginally or under your eyes, and sometimes they itch. I still have those same bumps, and occasionally they still itch. I **think**i got blood testing for herpes then...I know I asked for it. But the docs kept looking at me like I was overreacting since there were no blisters. I'm 90 percent sure I was tested then tho. Just a note in case that's helpful.

So my question is...do these symptoms seem like those of a first OB? And how long is typical between exposure to the virus and an actual OB?

Also, any other testing you'd suggest? I was tested in April for hiv (was neg) and just couldn't do it again this week. I couldn't bear hearing two possible positive diagnoses...but I will get tested for it again after I know what all this is.

Thanks so so so so much for any help. I've been so stressed since wed night.



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Are these Symptoms that first OB is coming? [View All] Gogo1 Jul-16-16 TOP
  RE: Are these Symptoms that first OB is coming? Gogo1 Jul-16-16 1
     If the doc swabbed for herpes and other things, wait for that result. Rajahadmin Jul-16-16 2
         RE: If the doc swabbed for herpes and other things, wait for that resu Gogo1 Jul-16-16 3
             More answers.. Rajahadmin Jul-17-16 4
                 Have three cold sores (thus far) today... Gogo1 Jul-18-16 5
                     It definitely varies from one person to another. Rajahadmin Jul-18-16 6
                         Could I have HSV II around my mouth or is it the HSV I that I've alrea Gogo1 Jul-18-16 7
                             RE: Could I have HSV II around my mouth or is it the HSV I that I've a Rajahadmin Jul-23-16 8
                                 Update... Gogo1 Jul-29-16 9
                                     Oh, and I forgot to mention Gogo1 Jul-29-16 10
  RE: Are these Symptoms that first OB is coming? mickykl3 Jul-03-17 12

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Gogo1
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1. "RE: Are these Symptoms that first OB is coming?"
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   And when I say "assuming I've had the virus," I'm trying to say that the doc saying I don't have blisters means that I don't have hsv may or may not be right. I think...based on what I've been reading here. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks again.


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2. "If the doc swabbed for herpes and other things, wait for that result."
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I say that not so much because a negative for herpes would be definitive, but more so that you can see if it might be something else.

You might want to get a good type specific IgG blood test so that you can see if you already have herpes from some earlier encounter.

The actual chances of getting herpes from a single brief encounter in absence of obvious symptoms are very low.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain


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3. "RE: If the doc swabbed for herpes and other things, wait for that resu"
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   Wow, Rajah,

Thank you so much for replying so quickly. It means more than I say right now.

Now that you've been so kind as to answer my super-long message, may I please ask a few more questions:

1) My only concern about the swab was that the little bump he swabbed--I'm not sure how long it was there. if it was just a bit of irritated skin like he thought, it would've been there long enough for the 24-48 hours I've read here is necessary for a swab to be accurate. But if it just appeared Wed. night and I got it swabbed Thurs. late afternoon...would that be enough time for it to be accurate??

2) And yes, I will get an IgG blood test to see if I have it already. Do I need to wait to see if I actually have an outbreak to get that test, or can I go ahead now?

3) I'm having more pain specifically in my vulvular area today as the day progresses...it alternates between itching and this painful, aching feeling. Almost like a pressure feeling more than actual pain, but the pressure itself hurts. And then, it goes back to a scratchy, sharp itching sensation. I've not felt this before. Is this typical for an outbreak-to-come symptom? (again, no tingling)

4) How long is it typically between contraction of the virus and outbreak-to-come symptoms; and then between outbreak-to-come symptoms and the actual OB?

4) If it turns out I didn't get it from this recent encounter and that I don't have it from an old encounter...how can I best and most realistically protect myself? I know I'm going to continue having sex, and I'm single (age 39), so what's the best protocol to follow? I'd have a conversation for something where we've been dating a while , but I mean if I find myself in a short-term situation (where you're not expecting sex, it "just happens")--just make sure the guy wears a condom and have no unexposed skin-to-skin contact and no oral sex without blood testing? Or should I just have the mindset that I don't do short-term situations anymore?


Thank you again so much.


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4. "More answers.."
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1. Swabs are quite accurate if they result in a positive outcome, but, unfortunately are not very accurate if the result is a negative. I can't answer the timing question. I am not a doctor or medically trained other than having dealt with the medical merry-go-round with 5 active children and surviving 70 years myself. Of course, dealing with herpes for 25 years now and webmastering this website which is in its 21st year online.

2, No, you can get a blood test at any time. However, if you a very recent infection, it does take a little time for antibodies to develop to a detectable level. That can be as short as a couple weeks or as long as 3 or 4 months in some cases. Getting the blood test now is a good thing to do to establish a "baseline".

3. That's very subjective. I am not much help here, but it doesn't sound typical to me.

4. Keep in mind that most infections don't result in obvious active symptoms. If symptoms develop from a new infection it can be within a couple days to a couple weeks.

4a. If you really want to avoid herpes and other STIs, casual sex is out. Have a discussion about sexual health and arrange for both of you to have a full STD panel of tests and specifically ask for type specific herpes IgG testing. Amazingly, it's not part of the standard panel the last time I heard. In a short term situation, condoms definitely help, but are not 100% since it doesn't cover the entire genital contact area. Female condoms are probably more effective than the male condom.

Be careful, it's a jungle out there..


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5. "Have three cold sores (thus far) today..."
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   Hi Rajah,

Thank you again for your answers. Really, I don't know who else I could ask and get this level of knowledge. So truly, thank you so much.

I'll def. be getting a blood test--and yes, casual sex is officially out for me. That's funny, I was thinking today that female condoms were prob. more effective than male condoms.

I feel so sad. This morning, felt one cold sore forming on my mouth. This afternoon, another. And this evening, yet another. They aren't flamingly red and huge, but they're def. there, slathered now in Abreva. I guess this is because I also had oral sex with the guy...I just don't know how many more are coming.

I've had one cold sore before, 10-12 years ago, when I kissed my mother, who had one. But it cropped up within hours of me kissing her, so I assumed the same thing would happen in this case if I were going to get them orally. Maybe it's different when you get one from pecking somebody versus oral sex, though--the guy had no sores that I could see...but it's just too coincidental that I'd get three in one day a week after the sex act.

Well, I started on the Valtrex yesterday--the doc had recommended that I start just in case, so whatever outbreak I had, if I had one, wouldn't be so terrible. He said that if I was going to have one that I'd still have one but that taking the valtrex in advance would make it a little less severe.

So now, I'm trying to brace myself for whatever may happen in my genital area. I've had some itching there today, but mild. I keep checking myself, but nothing so far. I'm praying I won't get anything there as well.

Three questions:

1) Do oral and genital sores tend to come at the same time during a first outbreak? Or it varies from person to person?

2) Also, do genital sores come one at a time or all at once during the first outbreak..or does that vary as well?

3) I'm using Abreva on my mouth. Is there anything I can apply to my genitals if I get sores there?

Thanks for being a source I can talk with.



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6. "It definitely varies from one person to another."
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If you recall having a cold sore years ago, then you've had this for some time.

I'm glad you are already taking Valtrex. The sooner you start episodic antiviral treatment, the better.

Abreva is somewhat effective. If you have having genital symptoms and are already taking antivirals, the best thing to use is a topical anesthetic and keep the affected area clean and dry.

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7. "Could I have HSV II around my mouth or is it the HSV I that I've alrea"
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   Okay. Could the guy have given me HSV II around my mouth? Or is it the same HSV (HSV I, I'm assuming) that I've had all this time and I'm having an episode right now for some reason?

Yes--am taking Valtrex and am also taking L-Lysine now, too, as of tonight.

And I'll get some more Abreva tomorrow--went through a whole little tube today.

Thank you so much.


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8. "RE: Could I have HSV II around my mouth or is it the HSV I that I've a"
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Oral herpes can be HSV2, but it is very uncommon. It seems like that strain of the virus prefers a lower location.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Paraphrased from Mark Twain


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9. "Update..."
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   Hi Rajah,

Well, I haven't yet gotten any genital sores. It'll be three weeks this Sunday since the time of possible infection, so I am thinking I am in the clear on that front (is that a safe assumption??). I still have some itching in the same spots down there...so I am making an appm with a primary care physician so I can get all the testing I need to get.

The first cold sore I got last Monday (not this past Monday but Monday of last week), though, that showed up a week after the time of possible infection--it's still present. I was able to get it to be pretty not visible within a couple of days, and then it seemed like it was going away...and then, a couple of days ago, it seemed to come back, along with the one I got the very time 10-12 years ago when I was initially infected from kissing my mother. And then yesterday, I felt one trying to come in a different spot on my mouth.

None of them are really visible--I've been using tea tree oil on them and have continued the valtrex. But they are persistent. Is this normal for a breakout?

I changed my toothbrush a couple of weeks ago--should I change it again? Should I use a different wash cloth every day?

Not sure if I've reinfected myself or if this is typical of an outbreak. I know it's technically not the first one, but with my mother, it was one and done within 2-3 days and it never came back. This time around, it's very different. It feels like they're never going to leave!!!


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10. "Oh, and I forgot to mention"
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   ...I went through the whole shedding thing with the cold sore that's come back. Had all the skin shed, all that, and now, it's like it's back again. Just don't know if that's normal. Or if I've somehow touched/irritated it and made it come back.


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12. "RE: Are these Symptoms that first OB is coming?"
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   That is a long story, but I have no idea of it.


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